This evening the Council of Civic Organizations (CCO), Virginia Beach's civic league federation, had it's election for the 2009 Executive Committee. The Nominating Committee's slate was accepted by acclamation:
President: Sam Reid
1st Vice President: Jermaine Hannah
2nd Vice President: Jim Glynn
Treasurer: Joe Yurso
Recording Secretary: Henry Ryto
Corresponding Secretary: Julie Strader
Director: Dr. Maggie Sizer
Director: Jennifer Acey
Director: Melinda Lunchun
With Jim Glynn moving up, John McMullen will serve the final year of his Director's term. Entering the second year of Director's terms are Chris Wiemken and Jay Kerr. Chandler Scarborough will continue to serve as Past President.
13 comments:
Same McMullen as the VBTA McMullen?
Yes, the same McMullen. I was shocked when I saw the Nominations Committee Report.
The VBTAers never learn. Before him both Reid Greenmun and Bob O'Connor tried using the CCO for their far right-wing agenda. O'Connor's one year stint as a Director had him throwing in the towel by mid-August.
Last night McMullen at one point claimed the City was required to put to referendum any Resort Area project. The rant started getting so bad that President Sam Reid cut him off.
McMullen has never been one to be bothered with the facts.
Just watch him on TV at a hearing and you will agree: He is without a doubt the most clueless of the VBTA crowd.
Denigrating your fellow VBCCO Board members again Henry?
Tisk, tisk.
It seems you are incapable of learning proper behavior when you join an organization.
My far right agenda?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ... to a Left-leaning Socialist Freeloader such as yourself almost everyone must appear to have a "far right" agenda.
As I recall, you are a fine one to throw rocks at others when you have no problem using the VBCCO to advance your personal agenda!
In closing, our good friend Brian Kirwin also served on the VBCCO.
Congratulations Henry
Reid,
The original post had no editorial comment.
I only commented on the one position when asked a question about it.
Oh, I was supposed to be rude an ignore the question?
To Avenging Archangel and Anonymous
From: John McMullen
Subject: Your comments
Neither of you know me. I will attempt to inform you, which I doubt will be fruitful. I am a Retired Naval Officer, having been promoted through 15 ranks, worked my way up the Chain from Seaman through WO and retired as a LDO LCDR with a specialty in ordnance. In this speciality, I was continuously and constantly under review by my seniors through the Personnel Reliability Program. My honesty and integrity have as now always been above reproach and when I speak, I have the ability to prove what I state. After the Navy, I went into business where for 20 years I was successful in the ship repair business with profit and loss responsibilities. My credibility, integrity and performance have never suffered from any suspicion or been dishonored. You both attempt to do a disservice to my reputation by your unfounded snide remarks and innuendo. You are obviously entering into a fools inanity unarmed by ignorance and wrong thoughts. I'm sorry that your apparent lack of moral character does you a disservice when you abandon honesty and disgorge words with abandon about something you obviously know nothing about - ME.
LCDR John McMullen, USN, Retired.
Mr Ryto.
In your comment of 0814, 11/13 you state:
Last night McMullen at one point claimed the City was required to put to referendum any Resort Area project. The rant started getting so bad that President Sam Reid cut him off.
By this comment you infer that I was wrong. please read the following from the VA Constitution:
Section 10. Debt.
(1) Certificates of indebtedness, revenue bonds, or other obligations issued in anticipation of the collection of the revenues of such city or town for the then current year; provided that such certificates, bonds, or other obligations mature within one year from the date of their issue, be not past due, and do not exceed the revenue for such year.
(2) Bonds pledging the full faith and credit of such city or town authorized by an ordinance enacted in accordance with Section 7, and approved by the affirmative vote of the qualified voters of the city or town voting upon the question of their issuance, for a supply of water or other specific undertaking from which the city or town may derive a revenue; but from and after a period to be determined by the governing body not exceeding five years from the date of such election,
To bypass these requirements,VB uses the VBDA to issue bonds. The legality of the issuance of debt and the City paying the principle and interest on the VBDA bonds has not been tried in court.
Truthteller sends.
John,
The only legal referendum requirement for the issuance of bonds is that if Charter Bonds are used, a referendum must be held if it increses the Charter Bond debt by more than $10 million in a year.
My point wasn't one on moral character, but rather that you got a point factually wrong.
Yes, the convention center was done by going through the VBDA. In addition, light rail will be required to have it's debt floated through the TDCHR under Federal law. Therefore, there will be no legal requirement for a light rail referendum.
I don't think anyone was questioning your honesty or integrity. Rather, it is the accuracy of your statements made publicly.
I have never attended a city council meeting, but I watch them as often as I can. I have seen you speak more than once and have seen your facts and statements corrected by the city attorney and city manager.
Being wrong does not mean you are dishonest. And in this town, we all appreciate your service to our country.
To Avenging Archangel and Anonymous
From: John McMullen
Subject: Your comments
You are not listening. You continue to insist that I have not told the truth.
Henry states that:
"My point wasn't one of moral
character, but rather that you got a point factually wrong.
In my world, stating a point that is factually wrong is an impingement on my character. I have previously stated that I can prove what I say and have done so by the presentation of the appropriate articles of the Constitution. Please read them again. Your citing of the $10M restriction of the VB City Charter
only confirms the violation of gross spending by the City, i.e. 1.4 Billion (mostly for the resort and industry)spent without the consent of the voters who have to pay the bill for the next 20 years.
Anonymous (you should state your name - maybe not- may be embarrassing) said:
I have seen you speak more than once and have seen your facts and statements corrected by the city attorney and city manager.
The facts that you speak about being corrected were about the voters right to vote on the issuance of bonds and the devious methods that the City of VB uses to issue the Bond's of debt. The Constitution of VA provides for the right of suffrage and also states that the government shall not issue debt without the permission of the voter or their elected officials and that the citizen is sovereign.
I took this issue to court and the case was dismissed which I did not appeal. I did not appeal so that I did not interfere with the Northern Virginia case that contained the same premise. This case eventually found the General Assembly (GA)law for the HRTA unconstitutional. The GA does not want to put the issue to the voters as the voters have said no twice before and the GA has difficulty in finding consensus and has not been able, at this time, through two sessions.
I am tiring of trying to explain the Constitution to you both. Perhaps you should read it and think about your rights as citizens and how the government is not enabled to cure all of our problems and issues at the forced taking (taxing)of our wealth to be
redistributed at the will of the government. (think I just described the term liberal).
The government is NOT allowed to be our Big Brother. Each of our officials prior to taking office are required to uphold and defend the Constitution of the US and the Commonwealth. That is their primary duty and the only thing that they take an oath for. I have taken this oath, myself, many times and I have not done so without deep and undying belief in its principles and meaning. I still do so believe.
Your continued comments that I am wrong about my efforts to uphold the Constitution and hold the government's foot to the fire should be discontinued until you are correct in your comments. Disagreement does not become fact until all parties acknowledge the truth. You are terribly mistaken about my motives and understanding of our America and the preservation of our way of life.
Please desist until your thoughts are pure and true.
John McMullen
John,
Get over yourself. No one is calling you a liar. A lie is an intentional misstatement of facts.
Your many misstatements are obviously not intentional given that you show such passion for your beliefs.
You speak the truth when you say:
A lie is an intentional misstatement of facts.
Ans: You are both expert at misstating facts!!!!
Your many misstatements are obviously not intentional given that you show such passion for your beliefs.
Ans: You speak an untruth when you say: My misstatements- I have not misstated anything and have offered the proof of my statements which is more that I can say for you.
You speak the truth when you say I am passionate. I am passionate about the USA and the principles for which it stands. The problem is you obviously do not understand the principles and somehow feel superior to others and spew forth insults that are offensive to others - ME. Sometimes (like this occasion)I wonder why I gave 24years to protect individuals like you, however I come back to the principle that every citizen has a right to have his say and speak his/her mind. That is what my efforts were for. However when the explanation of the true side of the facts is not received or understood by the receiver, the intelligent individual gives up explaining the truth and considers his efforts useless because the ignorant will never understand.
I am obviously speaking to the imperceptive, cataleptic and uninformed and wasting my time.
Good by.
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